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Christian Friedrich HELLMERS, son of Christian Friedrich HELLMERS and Sophia Elisabeth JURGENS, was born on 15 Oct 1782 in Steinhausen, Bockhorn Municipality, Germany.¹ He was a Damask weaver.³ He married Almuth Margret SCHWANEWEDEL on 20 Dec 1807 in Steinhausen, Bockhorn Municipality, Schleswig Holstein, Germany.¹ He died on 4 Jun 1854 in Steinhausen, Bockhorn Municipality, Germany.¹

An extensive history of the Hellmers family can be found in Grant Franklyn-Smith's research document PDF "Descendants of Christian Von Hellmers".

Damask weaver

"There are no Hellmers listed as living in the Municipality of Bockhorn area in 1786, as are the Schwanewedel family (Johann a Cobler, Marten a Barrel-maker both of Steinhausen & Heinrich also a Barrel-maker from Bockhorn)."^4,5

Almuth Margret SCHWANEWEDEL,⁵ daughter of Gerd SCHWANEWEDEL (1747- ) and Almuth LUBBERS (1766-1847), was born on 12 Feb 1789 in Steinhausen.¹ She died on 21 Feb 1842 in Steinhausen.¹ She and Christian Friedrich HELLMERS had the following children:

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Johann Friedrich HELLMERS, son of Christian Friedrich HELLMERS and Almuth Margret SCHWANEWEDEL, was born on 12 Jan 1829 in Steinhausen , Bockhorn, Grand duchy of Oldenburg, Germany.^{1 5} burial details indicate 80 years, i.e.1827. Johann was a Cabinet maker, Farmer. He married Elizabeth CROOK on 23 Sep 1855 in Catholic Church, West Maitland, N.S.W.⁵ He married Annie KREMER on 25 Nov 1905 in St. David's Church, Sydney, N.S.W., Australia.⁴ 8656. Johann died on 30 Mar 1907 in 28 Norton St., Leichardt, Sydney.^{5 1 6} Regn. no.5308. Senile cardiac failure. Johann was buried on 1 Apr 1907 in Rookwood cemetery, Sydney. Old Wesleyan cemetery section 4C grave 270.^{7 8 9} Listed as Fred J. Hellmers. Same grave as wife, Elizabeth.

An extensive history of the Hellmers family can be found in Grant Franklyn-Smith's research document PDF "Descendants of Christian Von Hellmers".

Migrated to Australia in 1854. Cabinet maker.

On marriage certificate details Johann Friedrich Hellmers, his signature, is marked with an X showing he could not write his name, so he is listed as John Frederick (Herms), a spelling error but would always be known as John Frederick Hellmers now he was in Australia.

Business.1.: 1863, Cabinet Maker, 10 Smith Street, Newtown. Business.2.: 1864, Cabinet Maker, 15 Samuel Street, Newtown. Business.3.: 1865, Cabinet Maker, 3 Samuel Street, Newtown. Business.4.: Bet. 1866 - 1870, Cabinet Maker, Denison Street,

Newtown. Business.5.: Bet. 1871 - 1877, Cabinet Maker, Newtown Road, Newtown. Business.6.: Bet. 1879 - 1880, Cabinet Maker, Albert Street, Macdonaldtown. Business.7.: Bet. 1882 - 1885, Cabinet Maker, Malcolm Street, Macdonaldtown.

Johann bought a winemaking business at Canley Vale and owned 10 houses in Sydney. His property was divided by the 3 sons. Ancestral property in Nth. Germany viewed by Aust. descendants.

NSW PO Directory 1904 has -

Hellmers Albt., orehardist, Canley Vale

Hellmers Fred., cabinet maker, Canley Vale

Hellmers John, grazier, Craigie

Helmers John F., vignron, Canley Vale

"Johann Friedrich was born in Steinhausen, Bockhorn, Grand Duchy of Oldenburg, in 1829.

He was the son of Almuth Margaret & Christian Friedrich Hellmers, a Damask Weaver, they lived on a farming estate owned by the Hellmers since 1750 at Steinhausen in the Municipality of Bockhorn in the old Grand Duchy of Oldenburg - which later became Schleswig Holstein.

He learnt the trade of Cabinet Making & later was noted to be a Master Cabinet Maker living in Hamburg in 1853.

It seems there was a form of army conscription and Johann had moved to Hamburg to avoid being drafted into the army, he received a letter from his brother-in-law Johann Hopken, warning him if he was thinking of staying in Germany, he should front up around the 4th of April to the appropriate authority as announced in the public newspapers, and then the punishment won't be too hazardous. This led him to embrace the thought of leaving his homeland.

He shortly after emigrated on the " Meteor " from Hamburg sailing to New South Wales, Australia in 1854 aged 25 to start a whole new life.

He later met & married Elizabeth Crook the following year, on the twenty third of September 1855, at West Maitland, they were to have a long life together with a large family of 14 children & 36 grandchildren.

Naturalization was granted in January 1860, and he took the Oath on the twenty second day of September 1862. (Naturalization Papers of 1860-62)"

"Died at his residence 28A Norton St. Leichardt, Frederick John, in his 80th year^4,6,10,11"

Elizabeth CROOK, daughter of Henry Patrick CROOK (1800-1886) and Mary FOLEY (1807-1898), was born on 10 Jun 1836 in Sydney. .V1836.838.126/1836. Elizabeth was baptised on 10 Jul 1836 in St. Mary-s Cathedral, Sydney. see. R.C. Baptisms 1832-1837. vol 126 no.838. Elizabeth was 1836 - Roman Catholic. 1902Wesleyan.⁶ She died on 13 May 1902 in Canley Vale, Liverpool, Sydney.^{5 5} Regn. no.5722. Cardiac disease. Elizabeth was buried on 14 May 1902 in Rookwood cemetery.^{7 8 9 6} A double grave shared with her husband John Frederick Hellmers who joined her in 1907.

Elizabeth Crook was the second of 8 children to Henry Crook and Mary Foley, born in Sydney in 1836 and died in 1902 after producing 14 children with Johann Hellmers. She was buried in a double grave shared with her husband John Frederick Hellmers who joined her in 1907.

In 1855 it's noted that Elizabeth, could not sign her name on the marriage certificate to John Hellmers and is marked with an X.

In 1894 she was referred to as Betsy Hellmers nee Crook, on the death registration of her daughter, Wilhelmina's death.

Residence.1.: 1836, Sydney, Colony of New South Wales, Australia.717

Residence.2.: 1838, Black Creek, near Maitland, N.S.W.718

Residence.3.: Bet. 1840 - 1857, Maitland and West Maitland, N.S.W. [birth of daughter Margaret].719,720,721

Residence.4.: 1858, "Victoria Place", Sussex Street, Sydney, N.S.W. [birth of daughter Minna].722

Residence.5.: Bet. 1858 - 1860, Kingston, Sydney, N.S.W. [birth of daughter Sophia].723,724

Residence.6.: Bet. 1862 - 1863, 10 Smith Street, Newtown, N.S.W. [birth of daughter Mary Elizabeth].

Residence.7.: 1865, Kingston, (near Newtown). [birth of daughter Ada].

Residence.8.: 1870, St. George District, N.S.W. [birth of son Frederick Christian].

Residence.9.: 1872, Newtown, N.S.W,. [birth of daughter Lucy - 1872]. [birth of son Joseph Albert - 1874]. [birth of daughter Charlotte 1876].

Residence.10.: 1879, Albert Street, MacDonaldtown, N.S.W. [birth of daughter Marth Eva].725

Residence.11.: 1880, Vine Street, Redfern, [birth of son George].726

Residence.12.: Bet. 1880 - 1902, Canly Vale, N.S.W.727,728,729

"THE FRIENDS of Mr. GEORGE ADOLPHUS GEE are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of his deceased MOTHER, Eliza, to move from his residence, No. 3, Vine-street, Redfern, THIS (Tuesday) MORNING, at half-past 8 o'clock, for the Necropolis.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : Tue 6 May 1879 Page 10 Family Notices).^6,12"

Elizabeth CROOK and Johann Friedrich HELLMERS had the following children:

Annie KREMER, daughter of Michael KREMER ( - ) and Mary CONNOR ( - ), was born in 1867 in Goulburn, N.S.W., Australia.⁴ She was a Bookkeeper. She died in 1961 in Newtown District, Sydney.³

"Annie Kremer ,born Abt,1866 in Goulburn,N.S.W. daughter of Michael Kremer a Farmer & Mary Kremer (nee

Conner).She married John in 1905 her 1st marriage aged 39,he was 76,but he died in1907,no children were born of

this marriage. She was Informant on his death certificate, dated 2nd April 1907"³

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Wilhelmine Minna HELLMERS, daughter of Johann Friedrich HELLMERS and Elizabeth CROOK, was born on 30 Apr 1858 in Victoria Place, Sussex St., Sydney.⁵ She was a Household duties. Ladies Attendant.⁶ She married George Adolphus GEE on 20 Jul 1878 in Church of St.Stephen, Newtown, Colony of New South Wales, Australia.¹³ Regn. 1878/1647. Wilhelmine married Sidney Charles YOUNG on 23 Feb 1884 in Bethel House, George Street, Sydney.^{5 6} She died on 23 Jan 1894 in Newtown, N.S.W.^{5 13 6 6} Tubercular Pneumonia. Wilhelmine was buried on 24 Jan 1894 in Wesleyan Section, Rookwood Cemetery, New South Wales.

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Named "Minna" on Birth Certificate.

Death Reg Name: 1894, Wilhelmina Young, daughter of Betsy Crook & Frederick Hellmer

Residence: 1884, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.1433 Residence.1.: 1858, "Victoria Place", Sussex Street, Sydney1434 Residence.2.: Bet. 1858 - 1860, Kingston, (near Newtown).1435,1436 Residence.3.: Bet. 1862 - 1863, 10 Smith Street, Newtown

Residence.4.: 1874, Newtown, New South Wales, Australia.1437 Residence.5. 1: 1894, 28 Rowley Street, Camperdown.1438 Residence.5. 2: 1878, McDonald Town, Sydney

"Bride - Wilhelmine Hellmers, Spinster, born Sydney, [no occupation] a minor [under age,

permission given by father who attended]. Living in Mcdonaldtown, Sydney, daughter of

John Frederick Hellmers, Cabinet Maker and Elizabeth Crook

Signatures by both Groom and Bride and Witness signatures of her father Johann

Friedriech Hellmers and sister Sophia Hellmers"

"Wilhelmina had a short life, dying at the age of 35 yrs 8 months old, and living a very full life at that,

Wilhelmina married George Gee in 1878, and with him came two children from his 1st marriage to

Emma Bush, they were Eliza Ophelia Gee and Albert Adolphus Gee, Wilhelmina and George went

on to have 2 children George Frederick Gee and Elizabeth May Gee, her husband George died in

1881 and so Wilhelmina now with 4 children to rear, remarried in 1884 to Sidney Charles Young,

they went on to have a further 3 children, Sidney Charles Young, Winifred Mabel Young and

Constance Muriel Young, Wilhelmina then died tragically in her prime of Tubercular Pneumonia on

the 24th January 1894, not quite 36, and widower, Sidney Charles Young re married to rear the

Gee and Young brood in a 12 months time in 1895 to Harriet Moore and had a further 3 children,

Reginald, Irene and Phillip, a total of 10 half brothers and sisters, Sidney Charles Young died in

1930, and his wife Harriet died in 1952.

Technically Wilhelmina had 5 children and 5 step children from her two marriages. [I have traced

all these children and their descendants where possible due to privacy laws of living people, Grant

Franklyn-Smith 2019."^6,12,14

George Adolphus GEE, son of Joseph GEE (1814-1905) and Eliza Ophelia SHORT (bap.1812, bur.1879), was born c. 1839 in Chippenham, Wiltshire, England. He was baptised on 10 Mar 1839 in Chippenham. He was a Railway Guard, Mariner.^{6 12} He married Emma Thomsett Crothall CRITTLE on 8 Jul 1867 in Sydney. He died in 1881 in Redfern, New South Wales, Australia.^{4 13 6} Specific enlargement of the Liver. George was buried on 3 Aug 1881 in Necropolis, Rookwood Cemetery.

The full Family Tree for this family can be found at this Source:333, and 425.

Residence.1.: Abt. 1839, Chippenham, Wiltshire, England.1449,1450 Residence.2.: 1878, Redfern, N.S.W., Australia.1451 Residence.3.: 1881, Vine Street, Redfern, N.S.W.^6,14,15

George Adolphus GEE and Wilhelmine Minna HELLMERS had the following children:

Sidney Charles YOUNG,^{16 3} son of George YOUNG (1840-1904) and Eliza Ruth DAY (1842-1874), was born in 1863 in Shrivenham, Berkshire, England.^{6 16} He was a Waiter. Parliamentary Steward.⁶ He married Harriet MOORE on 23 Jan 1895 in Enmore, NSW. He died on 15 Mar 1930 in Ourah Private Hospital, Darlinghurst Road, Darlinghurst, Sydney.^{13 6} Cancer of the Larynx. Sidney was buried on 17 Mar 1930 in Rookwood Crematorium, Rookwood.

Gentleman

"Sydney Young, was a Gentleman of Newtown when he married in 1884 to Wilhemina Gee (nee Hellmers), they had 3 children. After Wilhelmine's death in 1894, he remarried to Harriet Moore and also had another 3 children"

Immigration: Abt. 1883

Residence 1: 1884, Newtown, Sydney.1467,1468 Residence 2: 1894, 28 Rowley Street, Camperdown.1469 Residence 3: 1930, Late of Audley Street, Petersham, Sydney^5,6

Sidney Charles YOUNG and Wilhelmine Minna HELLMERS had the following children:

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Sophia HELLMERS, daughter of Johann Friedrich HELLMERS and Elizabeth CROOK, was born on 1 Mar 1860 in Kingston, Petersham, Sydney.¹⁷ Reg. no. 3858. headstone has age at death of 71 years. Sophia was C of E. She married David Poole HALL on 28 May 1881 in Church of St Luke, Elizabeth Drive, Liverpool, Colony of New South Wales, Australia.^{13 6} Regn. 1881/3656. Sophia died on 12 May 1932 in Janet St, Drummoyne, Sydney.^{18 7 19 20} chronic myocarditis, Death regn. no. 5833 - 189, issued 10/5/83, Died at Janet St., Drummoyne, cremated at Rookwood 13 May 1932, Methodist cremation, but buried, according to Source : Mary Poole bible, No.242. Sophia was buried on 13 May 1932 in Rookwood.^{7 19} cremated at Rookwood 13 May 1932, Methodist cremation, but buried, according to Source : Mary Poole bible, No.242.

Sophia Hellmers was born in Kingston Road, Macdonald town, near the present Australia Street, later known as Kingston then Newtown. She was cremated and her ashes were interred within her husband, David's grave in the Methodist section of Rookwood Cemetery.

In December 1904 the Hall family, Sophia, David, Fred, Irene and Olive travelled by ship to Natal, South Africa. Olive Hall, at least was still there or there again in 1907, according to a postcard sent to her by her uncle, Fred Hellmers.

In Passport No. 25812, dated 27/2/1918, renewed 19/10/1922 she was described as 61 years of age, d.o.b. given as 1/3/56. In family photos she was pictured in Johannesburg, SouthAfrica with son Bert's family in 1918.

Moved to Market St. Drummoyne, during WW1, after Rickard Rd., Bankstown

Residence 1: 1860, Kingston, (near Newtown), Sydney.1544

Residence 2: Bet. 1862 - 1863, 10 Smith Street, Newtown

Residence 3: 1874, Newtown, New South Wales, Australia.1545

Residence 4: 20 July 1878, McDonald Town, Sydney.1546

Residence 5: 1879, Albert Street, MacDonaldtown.1547

Residence 6: Bet. 1880 - 1881, Canly Vale, N.S.W.1548

Residence 7: 1893, 3 Gladstone Street, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia.1549 Residence 8: 1895, Cambridge Street, Balmain South, Sydney.1550

Residence 9: 1904, 49 Cambridge Street, Balmain.1551

Residence 10: 1914, 27 St George's Crescent, Drummoyne,Sydney,.

Residence 11: 1916, Rickard Road, Bankstown, Mrs Sophia Hall, listed as resident on Dave [19-1-1916] and Fred's [23-10-1916] military papers when they joined the army in 1916 WW1.1552

Residence 12: 1932, Janet Street, Drummoyne, Sydney1553

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Friday 13 May 1932 > HALL - The Relatives and Friends of Mr and Mrs A E HALL and FAMILY, of Henry street, Tighe's Hill, Newcastle, Mr and Mrs D B HALL nnd FAMILY, of Johannesburg South Africa, Mr and Mrs DAVID HALL, of Gladesville, Mr and Mrs FRED HALL and FAMILY, of Gladesville, Mr and Mrs ALEX WALKER and SON, of Drummoyne, Mr and Mrs GEORGE CLELAND and FAMILY, of Gladesville, Mr and Mrs MILTON HALL and FAMILY, of Drummoyne, are Invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER, Sophia Hall to leave 38 Janet-street, Drummoyne, THIS FRIDAY, at 2 45 p m, for the Crematorium, Rookwood, By road.

"The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Friday 13 May 1932 >

HALL -The Relatives and Friends of Mr and Mrs A E HALL of Rozelle Mr and Mrs J MOPPITT and FAMILY, of Drummoyne, are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved SISTER-IN-LAW and AUNT, Sophia Hall, to leave 38 Janet-street, Drummoyne THIS FRIDAY " at 2 45 pm, for the Crematorium Rookwood. Wood Coffill Ltd, Motor Funeral Directors.

"The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Saturday 12 May 1934 >

HALL - Loving memory of our dear mother Sophia, deported May 12 1932. Always remembered. Inserted by son and daughter In-law Dave and Peg

HALL.-In sad but loving memory of our dear dad David Poole Hall, who departed this life at Drummoyne, August 15 1914, Inserted by his ever-loving daughter and son in-law, Olive and Alex, and

little grandson, Dave.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Friday 17 August 1917 >

HALL-In sad but loving memorv of our dear father, David Poole Hall, who departed this life August 15, 1914, at Drummoyne. Inserted bv his loving son and daughter in law, Arthur and Frances, and grandchildren. Geraldine, Helen, David, and Mervyn, of Newcastle.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Thursday 15 August 1918 >

Hall - In sad but loving memory of my dear dear husband and our father. David Poole Hall, who passed away August 15, 1914. Inserted by his loving wife Sophia Hall, and sons Dave and Fred (on active service in France), and Milton.

Hall - In sad but loving memory of our dear father, David Poole Hall, who passed away August 15, 1914. Inserted by his loving son daughter in law, Bert and Winnie Hall and grandchildren, Johannesburg, South Africa.

Hall - In sad but loving memory of our dear father, David Poole Hall who passed away August 15 1914 Inserted by his loving son and daughter-in-law, Arthur and Franes Hall and grandchildren.

HALL-In sad but loving memory of our dear dad, David Poole Hall who passed away August 15, 1914, Inserted bv his loving daughter and son in law, Olive and Alex Walker and little grandson Dave

HALL

David Poole Hall

Funeral notice 17AUG1914 late of Drummoyne Sydney Morning Herald 17AUG1914

son and daughter In-law Dave and Peg

HALL- In loving memory of our dear mother and grandma Sophia who was called away May 12 1932. Too Dearly loved to ever be forgotten, Sadly missed by her son and daughter-ln-law, Fred and Bell and grandchildren.

HALL- A tribute of love to the memory of our dear mother (Sophia) who passed away May 12 1932. Also dear dad David Poole who passed awav August 15 1914 Inserted by their Ioving daughter Olive, Alex, Grandson Dave.

HALL- In loving memory of our dear mother Sophia, who passed away May 12 1932 Also our dear father David Poole who passed away August 15 1914 Inserted bv their loving son Bert and daughter In law Winnie of Johannesburg South Africa.

HALL - Sweetest memories of my dear mother who passed away May 12 1932 Sadly missed by her loving daughter and son In law Irene and George Cleland and grandchildren."

Sophia Hall nee Hellmers.

Sophia Hellmers was born in Kingston Road, Macdonald town, She was cremated and her ashes were interred

within her husband, David's grave in the Methodist section of Rookwood Cemetery.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Friday 13 May 1932 >

HALL - The Relatives and Friends of Mr and Mrs A E HALL and FAMILY, of Henry street, Tighe's Hill,

Newcastle, Mr and Mrs D B HALL nnd FAMILY, of Johannesburg South Africa, Mr and Mrs DAVID HALL, of

Gladesville, Mr and Mrs FRED HALL and FAMILY, of Gladesville, Mr and Mrs ALEX WALKER and SON, of

Drummoyne, Mr and Mrs GEORGE CLELAND and FAMILY, of Gladesville, Mr and Mrs MILTON HALL and

FAMILY, of Drummoyne, are Invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER,

Sophia Hall to leave 38 Janet-street, Drummoyne,

THIS FRIDAY, at 2 45 p m, for the Crematorium, Rookwood, By road.

Wood Coffill Ltd, Motor Funeral Directors.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Friday 13 May 1932 >

HALL -The Relatives and Friends of Mr and Mrs A E HALL of Rozelle Mr and Mrs J MOPPITT and FAMILY, of

Drummoyne, are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved SISTER-IN-LAW and AUNT, Sophia Hall, to

leave 38 Janet-street, Drummoyne THIS FRIDAY " at 2 45 pm, for the Crematorium Rookwood.

Wood Coffill Ltd, Motor Funeral Directors.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Saturday 12 May 1934 >

HALL - Loving memory of our dear mother Sophia, deported May 12 1932. Always remembered. Inserted by

son and daughter In-law Dave and Peg^{6,21,22,23,24}

David Poole HALL, son of Daniel HALL (1824-1907) and Mary POOLE (1826-1859), was born on 13 Dec 1858 in Balmain.¹⁹ Index No..2393../..1859. Headstone has age at death of 56 years. David was a Builder, bricklayer. He was C of E. He died on 15 Aug 1914 in 27 St. Georges Crescent, Drummoyne, New South Wales, Australia.^{13 18} Cacheria - bladder carcinoma, Death regn. no.9900, issued 6/5/83, Place of death 27 St. George's Crescent, Drummoyne, Buried Methodist cemetery, Rookwood. No.242 - Source : Mary Poole , bible. David was buried on 17 Aug 1914 in Methodist cemetery, Rookwood.^{7 18} Buried Methodist cemetery, Rookwood. No.242 - Source : Mary Poole , bible.

David was born in 1858 to the first of his father's 3 wives as the younger brother to Edward, born in 1852. The birth Informant: 24 January 1859, Mary Hall, his mother of Balmain, signed with an X (her mark), as she could not write. He was named David, not David Poole, in the birth registration. He was called Daniel in his mother's death certificate.

He became a master builder and bricklayer.

His mother Mary died when he was just 1.His father remarried in 1862 when he was 4. David married Sophia Hellmers, the 3rd. of 14 children to German migrant Johann Friedrich Hellmers in 1881 at Liverpool, Sydney. Together they produced 7 children, 5 boys and 2 girls. They lived mainly in the Balmain area.

Residence.1.: Bet. 13 December 1858 - 1881, Balmain

Residence.2.: 1883, Curtis Road, Balmain

Residence.3. Sands Directory 1888 has a David Hall,bricklayer, Curtis Rd., North side, Balmain.

Residence 4. 1889 Sands has a David Hall at 203 Darling St.

Redidence 5. Bet. 1893 - 1894, 3 Gladstone Street, Balmain

Residence.6.: 1895, Cambridge Street, Balmain South

Residence 7. Census of 1901 has a David Hall at 58 Curtis Rd. in house of 1 male, 2 females

Residence 8. NSW P.O. Directory 1904 has - Hall David, 49 Cambridge-St., Rozelle, and

A Hall, David, 1 Valley-St.

Residence 9. 15 August 1914, 27 St Georges Crescent, Drummoyne

The uncle of David's father, Moses Slater, witness at david's marriage left him property: "Moses Slater, Gentleman, made his will on 25th August, 1876, indicating he has a house in Vincent

St., Balmain and that he will leave it to Daniel Hall, his nephew (son of Mary and David Hall). He

indicates that, after Daniel's death the house is to go to David Hall (Daniel's son) and to his heirs

and assigns for ever. He appoints David Hall as the Executor of his will."

"Probate was granted to David Hall of Balmain near Sydney, bricklayer, on 10th November, 1893.

The estate was sworn at £200." Daniel Hall died on 17 December 1907 and the house passed to David Hall who sold it to A T Lown in September 1908.

David Poole Hall died of cancer , aged 55 in 1914 at Drummoyne. He was buried in the Methodist cemetery at Rookwood. His wife's ashes were also interred later in the grave.

Newspaper tributes were:

"The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Wednesday 15 August 1917 >

HALL. - In sad but loving memory of my dear husband and our dear father. David Poole Hall, who departed this life at Drummoyne, August 15 1914. Inserted by his loving wife S Hall and children,

Arthur, Bert, Olive, Irene, Milton, Dave, and Fred (on active service).

HALL - In sad but loving memory of our dear father David Poole Hall, who departed this life at Drummoyne, August 15 1914. Inserted by his loving son and daughter-ln-law, Bert, and Winnie and

grandchildren Arthur, Harold, and Roy, of Johannesburg, South Africa.

HALL.-In sad but loving memory of our dear dad David Poole Hall, who departed this life at Drummoyne, August 15 1914, Inserted by his ever-loving daughter and son in-law, Olive and Alex, and

little grandson, Dave.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Friday 17 August 1917 >

HALL-In sad but loving memory of our dear father, David Poole Hall, who departed this life August 15, 1914, at Drummoyne. Inserted bv his loving son and daughter in law, Arthur and Frances, and

grandchildren. Geraldine, Helen, David, and Mervyn, of Newcastle.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) < Thursday 15 August 1918 >

Hall - In sad but loving memory of my dear dear husband and our father. David Poole Hall, who passed away August 15, 1914. Inserted by his loving wife Sophia Hall, and sons Dave and Fred (on

active service in France), and Milton.

Hall - In sad but loving memory of our dear father, David Poole Hall, who passed away August 15, 1914. Inserted by his loving son daughter in law, Bert and Winnie Hall and grandchildren,

Johannesburg, South Africa.

Hall - In sad but loving memory of our dear father, David Poole Hall who passed away August 15 1914 Inserted by his loving son and daughter-in-law, Arthur and Franes Hall and grandchildren.

HALL-In sad but loving memory of our dear dad, David Poole Hall who passed away August 15, 1914, Inserted by his loving daughter and son in law, Olive and Alex Walker and little grandson Dave"^{6,24,25,26,27,28}

David Poole HALL and Sophia HELLMERS had the following children:

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Lilly Anna HELLMERS,⁴ daughter of Johann Friedrich HELLMERS and Elizabeth CROOK, was born in 1868 in Sydney, St. George District.⁶ She married Franz Freiderich Louis MULLER in 1891 in Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia. She died in 1940 in Kogarah.⁴

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Birth regn. 1868/4621

Residence 1: 1874, Newtown, N.S.W.1676 Residence 2: Bet. 1878 - 1879, Albert Street, MacDonaldtown, N.S.W.1677,1678 Residence 3: 1880, Canly Vale, N.S.W⁶.

Franz Freiderich Louis MULLER,⁴ son of Johann Gottfried MULLER (1833- ) and Louise Dorothee HELM (1835- ), was born on 9 Sep 1860 in Meisdorf, Sachsen, Preussen, [Prussia] Germany.¹³ He was a Tailor.⁶ He died on 22 Aug 1940 in Liverpool NSW.⁴

Tailor

Naturalization: 12 December 1891

The full Family Tree for this family can be found at this Source:^5,6,30

Franz Freiderich Louis MULLER and Lilly Anna HELLMERS had the following children:

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Frederick Christian HELLMERS, son of Johann Friedrich HELLMERS and Elizabeth CROOK, was born in 1870 in St. George. 1870/4896. Frederick was a Farmer - Vineyards at Canley Vale.⁶ He married Lucy LINLEY on 24 May 1899 in Canley Park, Wesleyan Church, N.S.W., Australia.^{5 4} He died on 1 Nov 1931 in Togil Street, Canley Vale, New South Wales, Australia.^{5 4 13} He was buried on 3 Nov 1931 in Rookwood Crematorium, Rookwood, N.S.W.^{9 6} Ashes were placed with wife's parents in Grave at Rookwood Cemetery. Grave No: 1931, Section 5, Row 24, Grave No 2680, 2681.

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Residence 1: 1874, Newtown, N.S.W.1709 Residence 2: Bet. 1878 - 1879, Albert Street, MacDonaldtown, N.S.W.1710,1711 Residence 3: Bet. 1880 - 1907, Canley Vale, N.S.W. He was close to the Hall children, according to postcard sent to Olive Hall in 1907^6,22.

Lucy LINLEY, daughter of Thomas Buckingham LINLEY (c. 1835-1907) and Maria UNKNOWN (1845-1927), was born c. 1872. She died on 29 Oct 1942 in Redfern District.⁴ She was buried in Oct 1942 in Rookwood Cemetery Anglican.^{9 6} Buried with her husband Frederick & parents Maria & Thomas Linley. Grave No: October 1942, Section 5, Row 24, Grave No 2680, 2681. She and Frederick Christian HELLMERS had the following children:

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Arthur Edward HALL,³⁵ son of David Poole HALL and Sophia HELLMERS, was born in 1882 in Balmain. Reg 3955/1882. Arthur was an Estate Agent. Hotel broker.³⁶ He was C of E. Seventh Day Adventist - on death cert. He married Margaret Frances RYALL in 1901 in San Francisco, USA. from death cert. Arthur married Blanche Linda COOMBS in 1945 in Lismore, NSW. 15732/1945. Arthur died on 14 Mar 1966 in 9 Lindsay St., Hamilton, Newcastle. 1966/12613 coronary occlusion, senility. Arthur was buried on 15 Mar 1966 in Beresfield Crematorium, Newcastle, NSW.

Arthur Edward Hall was born 1882 in Balmain, Sydney. He bacame an Estate Agent and Hotel broker. He died in 1966 in Newcastle, New South Wales. He married Margaret Ryall about 1901 in San Francisco, USA. They had 5 children.

Margaret died in 1944 in Newcastle Hospital. Arthur married again to Blanche Coombs in 1945 in Lismore, New South Wales.

According to United States Census, 1910 , he was living in San Francisco, with his wife and 3 children, he having emigrated in 1901.

"United States Census, 1910

Name: Arthur E Hall

Birthplace: Australia.

Relationship to Head of Household: Self

Residence: San Francisco Assembly District 33, San Francisco, California

Marital Status: Married 9 years, Margaret had 3 Children, all living.

Race : White

Gender: Male

Immigration Year: 1901

Father's Birthplace: Australia.

Mother's Birthplace: Australia.

Family Number: 47

Page Number: 2

Arthur E Hall M 30y

Spouse Margaret F Hall F 30y born California, parents born Ireland.

Child Geraldine Hall F 8y

Child Helen J Hall F 6y

Child David R Hall M 1y 5m"

After Arthur married Frances, a widow with 2 daughters, in California, USA, they adopted his surname of Hall, and they had 2 sons. David was born in California and Mervyn was born in Australia.

They returned to Australia in 1912.

S.S. 'Ventura' sailed from San Francisco via Honululu to Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, arriving in Sydney 19th August 1912, travelling 2nd Class Cabins, J L Lowell, Master of Ship.

Mr A E Hall & Mrs A E Hall, Miss Geraldine Hall, Miss Helen Hall, Master David Hall.

By 1930 the Electoral Roll notes them at 61 Henry Street, Tighe's Hill, Wickham, Newcastle. with Arthur Edward Hall, Clerk of Works, Frances Margaret Hall, Home Duties, Geraldine Frances Hall, School Teacher, and David Royal Hall, Carpenter.

At Sophia Hall's death, Arthur was the Informant on her death certificate of 1932.

In the Electoral Roll of 1936 we have Arthur Edward Hall, Clerk of Works, Frances Margaret Hall, Home Duties, Geraldine Frances Hall, School Teacher, and Mervyn Frederick Hall, Mill Hand. At 61 Henry Street, Tighe's Hill, Wickham, Newcastle.

Electoral Roll 1937 repeats 1936, and by the Electoral Roll 1943 Arthur, Frances and Geraldine only are at the address.

Frances died in1944 and by the Electoral Rolls of 1949 & 1954 Arthur Edward Hall, Clerk of Works is now living at that address with his new wife Blanche- Blanche Linda Hall, Home Duties.

The Electoral Rols of l 1958 & 1963 have Arthur Edward Hall, Business Agent and Blanche Linda Hall, Home Duties at a new address, 9 Lindsay Street, Hamilton, Newcastle.

Residence.1.: 1882, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W., Australia.

Residence.2.: 1893, 3 Gladstone Street, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia.

Residence.3.: 1895, Cambridge Street, Balmain South, Sydney. (Source: Birth Reg of Irene Hall No 30281/1895.)"

Residence.4.: 1907, San Francisco, U.S.A. [1st marriage].2117

Residence.5.: 15 August 1914, 27 St. Georges Crescent, Drummoyne, N.S.W.2118

Residence.6.: Bet. 1932 - 1944, 61 Henry Street, Tighes Hill, Newcastle, N.S.W.2119,2120"

Residence.7.: 1945, Lismore [2nd marriage].2121

Residence.8.: 1966, Hamilton, Newcastle, New South Wales, Australi^6,11,24a

Margaret Frances RYALL,³⁵ daughter of Jeremiah RYALL ( - ) and Mary FITZGERALD ( - ), was born in May 1878 in San Francisco.²⁴ She died on 16 Jul 1944 in Newcastle Hospital, NSW. 18780 Exhaustion, cerebral thrombosis. Margaret was buried on 17 Jul 1944 in C of E cemetery, Sandgate.

Known as Frances, she had 2 daughters Geraldine & Helen and was newly widowed when she met and m

Married Arthur Hall in San Francisco, then moving back to Australia, to raise 2 sons David & Mervyn.

"Francis was a widow when she married Arthur Hall,Francis appears on the death certificate of her father-in-law, David Poole Hall, as the informant in 1914, and is noted to have assisted the birth of Irene Cleland's first child Irving Hall Cleland

,born 4th July 1915 at Ashburn Place, Gladesville."

Residence 1: Bet. 1881 - 1907, San Francisco, United States of America.2126,2127

Residence 2: 1910, Residence: San Francisco Assembly District 33, San Francisco, California.2128,2129

Residence 3: 15 August 1914, 27 St. Georges Crescent, Drummoyne, N.S.W.2130 Residence 4: Bet. 1932 - 1944, 61 Henry Street, Tighes Hill, Newcastle

Came to NSW in 1912 a/c to death cert.

"HALL, Margaret Frances - Died 16th July 1944

Por: ANGLICAN_3 Sec: 168 Lot: 1 Buried on: 17/07/1944 Lat: -32.86806 Long: 151.705209 Sangate

Cemetery

HALL, David Royal - born 4-11-1908 died 26-1-2002

Por: ANGLICAN_3 Sec: 168 Lot: 1 Buried on: 19/02/2002 Lat: -32.86806 Long: 151.705209 Sandgate

Cemetery

Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate - Monday 17th July 1944.

Generation 5 (con't)

Electoral Roll 1958 & 1963

Arthur Edward Hall, Buisness Agent

Blanche Linda Hall, Home Duties

9 Lindsay Street, Hamilton, Newcastle

Arthur Edward Hall died at home no 9 Lindsay Street, Hamilton on the 14th March 1966.

Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners AdGveoncaetrea t-i oMno n5d (acyo 1n7'tt)h July 1944.

Hall - The relatives and fiends of Mr Arthur E Hall, Miss Geraldine Hall, Mr & Mrs C Porter, Mr & Mrs D Hall, Mr

& Mrs M Hall, and Families are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved Wife, Mother, Mother-in-law

and Grandmother, Margaret Frances Hall, to move from T Moore's Private Chapel, William Street, Hamilton,

this afternoon at 3 o'clock for Church of England Cemetery, Sandgate. Motor Funeral. Thomas Moore, Funeral

Director."^6,24,35

Margaret Frances RYALL and Arthur Edward HALL had the following children:

Blanche Linda COOMBS,⁶ daughter of Elwood Jonathan COOMBS ( - ) and Mary Anna UNKNOWN ( - ), was born in 1894 in Morpeth, NSW.⁶ She died in 1978 in NSW.²⁴

"Electoral Roll 1949 & 1954

Arthur Edward Hall, Clerk of Works

Blanche Linda Hall, Home Duties

61 Henry Street, Tighe's Hill, Wickham, Newcastle.

Electoral Roll 1958 & 1963

Arthur Edward Hall, Buisness Agent

Blanche Linda Hall, Home Duties

9 Lindsay Street, Hamilton, Newcastle"²⁴

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Daniel Berthold HALL, son of David Poole HALL and Sophia HELLMERS, was born on 5 Aug 1883 in Curtis Road, Balmain. 4362/1883. Daniel was a Plumber Builder.¹² He was C of E. He married Winifred Temperance CRANCH on 11 Nov 1908 in St. Mary the Less, Jeppestown, Pretoria, South Africa.^{37 38} He died aft 1932 in South Africa.

Daniel was born in 1883 in Balmain, Sydney, the 2nd of 7 children to David Poole Hall and Sophia Hellmers. He migrated to South Africa before 1908 when he married Winifred Cranch in Jeppestown, Pretoria, a suburb of Johannesburg. They had 4 boys, all born in Johannesburg.

Daniel, known as "Bert" operated a Plumbing business in South Africa.

At their wedding in 1908 his residence was "Bezuidenhout Valley, Johannesburg".

Residence.1.: 1893, 3 Gladstone Street, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia.

Residence.2.: 1895, Cambridge Street, Balmain South, Sydney. (Source: Birth Reg of Irene Hall No 30281/1895.)

Residence.3.: Bet. 1919 - 1950, South Africa"(photo of brother David and Bert taken in Durban 16/8/1919).

He and Win visited Australia in 1934.^6,35,37

Winifred Temperance CRANCH,³⁷ daughter of James Henry CRANCH ( - ) and Martha Magdalena VISAGIE ( - ), was born on 11 Oct 1887 in Cairo, Egypt.^{37 39 40} She died aft 1932 in South Africa.⁶

In 1901 Winifred was living in Llandilo, Camarthenshire, Wales, according to 1901 Census. She had been born in Cairo in 1887.

Left England in 1906, aged 16, with her sister.

At her wedding in to Bert Hall in 1908, her address was 46 Wilhelmina Stret, Johannesburg.

She was still alive in July 1971. Living East London.^37,40,41

Winifred Temperance CRANCH and Daniel Berthold HALL had the following children:

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David Edward HALL, son of David Poole HALL and Sophia HELLMERS, was born on 1 Mar 1886 in Balmain.³⁵ 4080/1886. David was a Hauler, Engineer.²³ He was C of E. He married Margaret Fanny SHERRING on 5 Mar 1918 in St. Andrew's Church Christchurch England.^{23 23 23} Married whilst on leave from AIF France WW1. David died on 3 Sep 1973 in 2/27 Collingwood St., Drummoyne. coronary occlusion, coronary sclerosis 59329. David was buried on 5 Sep 1973 in Northern Suburbs Crematorium, Sydney.

David Edward hall was born in Balmain in 1886 to David Poole Hall and Sophia Hellmers. He married Margaret Shearing in 1918. He died in Drummoyne in 1973.

In December 1904 the Hall family, Sophia, David, Fred, Irene and Olive travelled by ship to Natal, South Africa.

Permit No. 50298 to enter Transvaal and Orange River Colony, South Africa, 23/7/1903 - last address Cambridge St. Rozelle, Sydney.

He served for 3 years with Transvaal Motor Corps in South Africa and then enlisted with the AIF, 1st Field Co. Engineers in January 1916, aged 29. At his enlistment his address was Rickard Rd. Bankstown - his mother's address. He embarked in April 1916 foroverseas service on HMAT "Makarini", served in France until 1918, and returned to Australia, on " Prinz Ludwig" in July1919, diembarking in October. He was a transport driver for the 6th Australian Motor Transport Company. He married in the UK, on leave from France, during the War.

After the war he is pictured in a photo with his brother Bert in Durban 16/8/1919.

"Residence.1.: 1886, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W., Australia. (Source: CD ROM - of Births-Deaths-Marriages - GKFS.)

Residence.2.: 1893, 3 Gladstone Street, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia.

Residence.3.: 1895, Cambridge Street, Balmain South, Sydney. (Source: Birth Reg of Irene Hall No 30281/1895.)

Residence.4.: NSW P.O. Directory 1904 has - Hall David, 49 Cambridge-st., Rozelle. and a David, 1 Valley-st., Balmain

He obviously returned to Australia as his address was Gladesville at mother's death, 1932.

Residence.5.: 1944, Marlborough Street, Drummoyne. (Source: Death Reg of Fred Poole Hall No 27774/1944.)"

His occupation was a hauler and engineer and he became a Company owner.

According to Shirley Cordwell, Dave married Peg, a "Pom", which was apparently a sore point in the family.

"HALL David Death notice 03SEP1973 Death 87 late of Drummoyne

Sydney Morning Herald 04SEP1973^{11,21,23,24,27,35}"

Margaret Fanny SHERRING,^{23 23} daughter of Alfred William SHERRING ( - ) and Fanny Emma LOCKYER ( - ), was born on 14 Oct 1894 in Christchurch, near Bournemouth, Dorset, England.^{23 6 24} Calculated from Marr. Cert. Margaret died on 4 Oct 1980 in Drummoyne.⁶

Known as 'Peggy'

Still alive at time of husband's death a/c to his death cert.

Address Bournemouth Hants, during WW1²³

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Olive Blanche HALL,³⁵ daughter of David Poole HALL and Sophia HELLMERS, was born in 1891 in North Balmain, Sydney.⁶ Birth regn. 1891/5306. Olive was C of E. She married Alexander WALKER in 1912 in Alexandra Street, Drummoyne.³⁵ 1593../..1912. Olive and Alexander WALKER were divorced. She married Matthew DIXON in 1940 in Wellington, New Zealand. calculated from death cert. Olive died on 31 Jul 1952 in Bellevue Avenue, Avalon Beach, Sydney. liver, breast cancer 1952/17446 manly. Olive was buried on 1 Aug 1952 in Northern Suburbs Crematorium.

Olive Hall was born to David Poole Hall and Sophia Hellmers in 1891 in Balmain. She married Alexander Walker in 1912 in Drummoyne. They were divorced after having one child. Olive remarried in 1940 to Matthew Dixon in Wellington, New Zealand. Olive died in Avalon Beach, Sydney in 1952.

In December 1904 the Hall family, Sophia, David, Fred, Irene and Olive travelled by ship to Natal, South Africa. Olive Hall, at least was still there or there again in 1907, according to a postcard sent to her by her uncle, Fred Hellmers.

Residence.1.: 1891, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W., Australia.2185

Residence.2.: 1893, 3 Gladstone Street, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia.2186 Residence.3.: 1895, Cambridge Street, Balmain South, Sydney.2187

Residence.4.: 1912, 27 St George's Crescent, Drummoyne, Sydney.2188,2189

Residence.5.: 1940, New Zealand. [marriage to 2nd husband M Dixon].2190

Residence.6.: 1952, Living with her son at Bellevue Avenue, Avalon Beach, New South Wales, Australaia"^6,21,22,35

Alexander WALKER,⁴² son of David WALKER ( - ) and Jessie C HAY ( - ), was born in 1884 in Balmain. He was a Carpenter. He died in 1938 in Five Dock, Sydney, NSW.⁶

At Drummoyne in 1932

Residence.1.: Abt. 1884, Balmain, N.S.W.2193

Residence.2.: 1912, Drummoyne, N.S.W.^6,11

Alexander WALKER and Olive Blanche HALL had the following children:

Matthew DIXON, son of Thomas Stoker DIXON ( - ) and Elizabeth LIDDLE ( - ), was born c. 1877 in Wellington, NEw Zealand. He was a Builder. He died on 30 Aug 1950 in Bellevue Avenue. 20796 Myocardial degeneration, hypertension. Matthew was buried on 1 Sep 1950 in Northern Suburbs Crematorium.

Immigration: Abt. 1941, New Zealand to Australia.

12 years in NSW on death cert

Lived together at Avalon^6,42.

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Frederick Poole HALL, son of David Poole HALL and Sophia HELLMERS, was born on 17 Nov 1893 in 3 Gladstone Street, North Balmain, Sydney.^{6 6} 1894/4642 Birthplace given as Rozelle in wedding declaration. Frederick was a Bricklayer, Ironworker,Secretary.²³ He was C of E. He married Isabella Jean MCLEAN on 9 Sep 1922 in Gladesville Presbyterian Church, Sydney. Samuel Brown /Reid/Rev.Charman/C 13360. Frederick died on 26 Dec 1944 in 25 Massey St., Gladesville, Sydney. Chronic myocarditis, arteriosclerosis, copy of death register - No.27774, buried 28/12/1944, Presbyterian cemetery, Field of Mars, informant - D. Hall, brother, Marlborough St., Drummoyne, M.D. - Dr. A. Callose. Frederick was buried on 28 Dec 1944 in Presbyterian cemetery, Field of Mars.

Fred Hall was born in Balmain in 1893, the 5th of 7 children. He became a bricklayer and ironworker. In December 1904 the Hall family, Sophia, David, Fred, Irene and Olive travelled by ship to Natal, South Africa, no doubt to visit Fred's brother Dave who had moved there to find work. Brother Bert may also have been in South Africa by then.

Fred's father David Poole Hall died at the beginning of WW1. The wider Hall family were builders, stonemasons and bricklayers and he found his calling as a tradesman. Fred enlisted in the Australian Army on 23/10/16. His WW1 Army rank was No. 16981, rank - sapper, 9th Field Co. Engineers. He Left Australia in 1917, age 22, for England, to France, where he was injured in 1917, thence to hospital, then leave to England, and returned to Australia as an invalid in 1918.discharge 9/4/19, d.o.b. 15/11/93, (RTA 9.12.18).

He was demobilised in Australia in 1919.He applied to Repatriation Department because of his injuries sustained in France on 17/8/35, and this was rejected rejected 17/10/35. Fred's WW1 notebook had scratched on the cover the names of Messines, Ypres, Armantieres, Pleogsteert,Pascengale, Hemnel and Villers-Bretonnau. There were also the addresses of his South African and English cousins as well as his brothers in the AIF.

Fred was employed before and after enlistment at Tooth-s Brewery as a bricklayer.He took up the cause of ex-soldiers with a passion and was Gladesville RSL Vice-President in 1921 (see photo) and was still an office-bearer in 1938. He married Isabel McLean in 1922 at age 28, and had 2 daughters Jean and Shirley as well as ste-daughter Betty. His war wounds bothered him for the rest of his life and daughter Jean remembered tending to them as a young woman.

Residence.1.: 1893, 3 Gladstone Street, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia.2250 Residence.2.: 1895, Cambridge Street, Balmain South, Sydney.2251

Residence.3.: 1914, 27 St. Georges Crescent, Drummoyne, N.S.W.2252 Residence.4.: 1916, Rickard Road, Bankstown, N.S.W. Lived with his mother Mrs Sophia Hall, when he enlisted in WW1.2253

He was Living Gladesville in 1932.

Residence.5.: 1944, 25 Massey Street, Gladesville, N.S.W.

Fred died in 1944 in the family home, 25 Massey Street Gladesville.^{6,11,23,42,43,44,45,46}

Last name

Hall

Service number

16981

Rank

Sapper

Birth year

1895

Marital status

Single

Occupation

Bricklayer

Religion

Church of England

Age at Embarkation

22

Embarkation year

1917

Embarkation date

10 Feb 1917

Embarkation regiment/unit

Field Companies Engineers

Unit information

January, 1917, Reinforcements

Departure port

Sydney, New South Wales

Ship name

Rms Osterley

Enlistment date

23 Oct 1916

City

Sydney

State

New South Wales

Country

Australia

Next of kin's first name(s)

Sophia

Next of kin's last name

Hall

Next of kin title

Mrs

Relationship

Mother

Next of kin address

Rickard-road

Next of kin city

Bankstown

Isabella Jean MCLEAN, daughter of John MCLEAN (1867-1943) and Isabel Jane CRIGHTON (1870-1936), was born on 16 Nov 1894 in Prosper St. Balmain Sth., Sydney. Birth Cert. Isabella was Presbyterian. She married James THORBURN in 1915 in Balmain South.⁴⁷ 14598/1915. Isabella and James THORBURN were divorced in 1917 in Sydney. 0088 ,0370. Isabella died on 28 Nov 1987 in Sydney. Death certificate gives cause of death as congestive cardiac failure, auricular fibrillation and generalised atherosclerosis. Isabella was buried on 2 Dec 1987 in Field of Mars Cemetery, Ryde.

"Bell" or "Bella" was born to John and "Jean" McLean in 1894 in Balmain, the eldest of 3 sisters Isabel, Clementina and Elsie. She married James Thorburn in Balmain in 1915. Her first daughter Betty McLean Thorburn was born in 1916, and the marriage ended in divorce in 1917. In April 1917 James Thorburn sued for restitution of his conjugal rights and Isabel was directed to return to the family home in 21 days. This did not happen and a divorce was granted in December 1917.

She remarried to Fred Hall in 1922, age 27, and 2 daughters were born to that marriage, Jean in 1925 and Shirley in 1928. Her husband Fred died at home in 1944 a year after her Father John McLean.

Bella worked at Walton's Department Store in Sydney city. Jean's husband Don always referred to her as "Mum" having lost his own mother at age 2.

From the family address, 25 Massey Street Gladesville she moved to 'Bethel' Nursing Home by 1980. She died in 1987 aged 93.She was buried in the same grave as Husband Fred at Field of Mars cemetery, Ryde.

During her life she was in constant written communication with daughter Jean who had moved to Tasmania in the 1950's. She also visited her Tasmanian family several times.⁴¹

Isabella Jean MCLEAN and Frederick Poole HALL had the following children:

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Mary Irene HALL, daughter of David Poole HALL and Sophia HELLMERS, was born on 25 Sep 1895 in Cambridge Street, Balmain South.^{48 35} reg. no. 1895/30281. Mary was a 1948, Proprietor of King St, Service Station, Sydney.³⁵ She was C of E. She married George Alexander Neil CLELAND on 16 May 1914 in The Manse, Balmain, New South Wales.^{48 35} She died on 17 Aug 1977 in Delmar Private Hospital, Dee Why, Sydney, N.S.W., Australia..^{48 35} Myocardial infarction 6mths, Hypertensive Cardiovascular Disease 10yrs. Mary was buried on 19 Aug 1977 in Northern Suburbs Crematorium, Nth Ryde, Sydney.Lincoln Grove Memorial Lawn Cemetery, Tamworth.³⁵ cremation.

Mary Irene Hall ("Rene") was born in 1895 in Balmain. She married george Cleland in 1914. They had 3 children. She died in 1977 at DeeWhy.

The most complete Cleland/Hall Family Tree is in Source 356, compiled by Grant Franklyn-Smith.

"Relationship Notes for George Alexander Neil Cleland and Irene Mary Hall:

May 16th, 1914, the day Irene was supposedly at friends having Tea, met with George and Eloped at the Manse in Balmain, Irene's parents did not really approve of Irene seeing George as he came from a poor family with no prospects, so they threatened to send her to Africa to stay with her elder brother, Bert Hall [13 yrs her senior] who had a wife and several sons, as a diversion to keep them apart, Irene hearing of the plans, told George and they planned their day, she told her mother that she was having tea at a close girlfriends house, they met and went to the Manse in Balmain and were married, returning to their respective home's after the event, the marriage certificate was hidden in her trousseau trunk, as future ammunition, but her snoopy elder sister Olive, found the incriminating evidence of her marriage certificate in the trunk, and fled to her mother, Sophia, shocked and outraged she banished her daughter Irene from the house never to return, they did not speak for a time but all was reconciled when she was due to have her first child"

In December 1904 the Hall family, Sophia, David, Fred, Irene and Olive travelled by ship to Natal, South Africa.

"Irene died in Delmar Private Hospital on the 17th August 1977 ,she was cremated on the 19th August and her Ashes were taken up to Lincoln Grove Memorial Lawn Cemetery, Tamworth and placed in a niche next to her husband George, who passed away the year before on September 13,1976, both have brass cover Plaques."

"Birth Details: 16-September-1895, Irene always celebrated her birthday on the 16th, her mother may have mistaken the date?"

"Property.1.: Bet. 1914 - 1950, 44 Ashburn Place, Gladesville, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia

Property.2.: Bet. 1952 - 1965, 680 Pittwater Road, Collaroy,Sydney.

Religion: Church of England

Residence.1.: 1895, Cambridge Street, Balmain South, Sydney. (Source: Birth Reg of Irene Hall No 30281/1895.)

Residence.2.: 1914, 27 St George's Crescent, Drummoyne,Sydney,.

Residence.3.: Bet. 1915 - 1950, "Oakland", 44 Ashburn Place,Gladesville (Source: Birth Reg of Beryl Cleland No 21433/1929.)

Residence.4.: Bet. 1950 - 1965, 680 Pittwater Road, Collaroy,Sydney (Source: Death Reg of John Franklin Smith No 654/1952.)

Residence.5.: Bet. 1965 - 1977, 31 Lancaster Crescent Collaroy, 2097, Sydney, N.S.W. (Source: ....)

Residence.6.: September-1976, "Echo Hills" Kootingal,near Tamwoth, N.S.W. (Source: Death Reg of George Cleland No 106544/1976.)"

"Travel.1.: Abt. 1908, Trip to South Africa with her mother Sophia to visit her elder brother"^21,24,35,49

George Alexander Neil CLELAND,³⁵ son of George Neil CLELAND (1867-1943) and Bellinda Susannah JONES (1872-1911), was born on 9 Jun 1892 in 1 McCredie Street, Pyrmont, Sydney, N.S.W.^{48 35} 1893. George was a Boilermaker, welder.³⁵ He died on 13 Sep 1976.^{48 35} I(a)Cerebrovascular accident 10 days (b)Cerebro-cardiovascular arteriosclerosis. George was buried on 16 Sep 1976 in New England Crematorium, Tamworth. Lincoln Grove Memorial Lawn Cemetery, Tamworth.³⁵

George N A Cleland was born in 1892in Pyrmont, Sydney to George N Cleland and Bellinda Jones, the 2nd of 4 children. He married Mary Hall in 1914. They had 3 children before George died in 1976.

"George was a championship light weight boxer and won several gold medals in his youth. He also managed a Roller & Ice skating Rink at Drummoyne, he did stunts, jumping over several chairs lined up and landing on his roller skates at the other end.He met Irene and she later said that she would not marry him unless he gave up boxing.

They eloped to the Manse in Balmain getting married, as Irene's parents wanted to send her to Africa, to stay with her elder brother, so she would not see young George who was not of their class, they kept it a secret, and still lived at their respective family homes, until Olive, Irene's sister found the marriage certificate in her dowry

still lived at their respective family homes, until Olive, Irene's sister found the marriage certificate in her dowry box, Irene was thrown out of the house by her mother, 'you have made your bed now lie in it' so she went to George, and they put a down payment on some land in Ashburn Place, Gladesville, they built a small cabin to live in while they built their Californian Bungalow, where they had their three children and lived there till the early fifties when they moved to Collaroy."

A photo appears of George with son Irving and freind Colin Rees and an unknown boy all dressed in the same style striped singlet tops and plain belted skirted bottoms [swimming costumes], most probably taken at Bilgola Beach. Irving was a Board Rider.

Not long after the birth of Beryl in 1929 the Sydney Harbour Bridge was built over several years, on the opening day, George and Irene, with Beryl on her lap, Olga & Irving and their housemaid in their large touring car, waited for the flag to race across the bridge for all public cars after the official opening, George coveted the Honour of driving the first car across the bridge in 1932:

Barrier Miner (Broken Hill, NSW : 1888-1954) < Saturday 16 April 1932 >

Western Argus (Kalgoorlie, WA : 1916-1938) < Tuesday 19 April 1932 >

The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld. : 1866-1939) < Thursday 21 April 1932 >

The Longreach Leader (Qld. :1923-1938) < Saturday 28 May 1932 >

First Car Across Sydney Harbour Bridge.

On the tick of midnight of March 19th, Mr George A. Cleland of Gladesvllle, Sydney, put his foot hard down on the accelerator of his Chrysler. With a long line of equally eager motorists behind him, he sped over a new highway-the Southern approach to the Sydney Harbour Bridge, just declared open, for traffic. By a safe margin, he achieved the unique honour of being the first member of the motoring public to cross that mighty steel span of Sydney's Harbour. For hours afterwards toll-collectors and the police had a tremendous task endeavouring to keep six long lines of, motor vehicles running smoothly. At one time, the queue on the city'side of the Harbour extended from the toll-house past the Sydney Town Hall. Cars on the northern side formed another queue that was at times almost a mile long. It is interesting to note that Mr. Cleland's car was shod with Perdriau Tyres-purely Australian products that, in their own field, are representative of the same spirit of Australian

enterprise and achievement that visualised and finally completed the Bridge itself.

Irene formed a good business as proprietress of the King Street Service station on the corner of King and Day Street's, Sydney. Under the Garage, on a lower level, George had his own business as an Electric Oxy Welder, they had a unique partnership and lasted till they retired, later they leased the Garage out, till the Service Station was later pulled down in the late sixties to make way for the western distributor link.

George died at Tamworth Base Hospital, after several strokes, He was staying with his daughter Olga and son-in-law Clem on their Farm at "Echo Hills" Kootingal, near Tamworth with his wife Irene, convalescing after a recent stroke, he took ill, with yet another more crippling one, was placed in hospital where he died 10 days later on September 13th 1976. George was Cremated at Tamworth's New England Crematorium, and later Placed in a niche in the Garden Wall at Lincoln Grove Memorial Lawn Cemetery with a Plaque over it, Irene joined him by his side a year later in

1977."

"Residence 1: 1892, 1 McCredie Street, Pyrmont. (Source: Birth Reg of George Cleland No 1893/1892.)

Residence 2: 1895, 55 Chourne Street, Pyrmont.

Residence 3: 1912, College Street, Drummoyne.

Residence 4: 1914, 75 Elliot Street, Balmain.

Residence 5: Bet. 1914 - 1950, "Oakland", 44 Ashburn Place, Gladesville.

Residence 6: Bet. 1952 - 1965, 680 Pittwater Road, Collaroy. (Source: Death Reg of John Franklin Smith No 654/1952.)

Residence 7: Bet. 1965 - 1976, 31 Lancaster Crescent Collaroy.

Residence 8: Bet. August - September-1976, " Echo Hills " Kootingal, near Tamwoth, N.S.W. (Source: Death Reg of George Cleland No 106544/1976.)"^24,35

Marriage Notes for IRENE HALL and GEORGE CLELAND:

May 16 th , 1914 ,the day Irene and George Eloped, Irene's parents did not really approve of Irene seeing George as he came from a poor family ,and no prospects,so they decided to send her to Africa to stay with her elder brother , Bert Hall who

had a wife and sons, as a diversion to keep them apart ,Irene hearing of the plans ,told George and they planned their day ,she told her mother that she was having tea at a close girlfriends House, they met and went to the Manse in Balmain and

were married, returning to their respective home's after the event , the marriage certificate was hidden in her trousseau trunk, as future ammunition, but her snoopy elder sister Olive, found the shocking certificate in the trunk ,and fled to her

mother, Sophia with the evidence, Sophia ,shocked and hurt sent her daughter Irene from the house never to return, they did not speak for a time but all was reconciled³⁵.

George Alexander Neil CLELAND and Mary Irene HALL had the following children:

45.

Edward Milton HALL, son of David Poole HALL and Sophia HELLMERS, was born in 1899 in South Balmain. Reg. 10040/1899. Edward was a Locomotive Engineer. Train driver. Fireman.⁶ He was C of E. He married Selina Wilhelmina LARNACH on 5 Mar 1924 in St. James Church of England, Sydney, New South Wales. reg. no.694. Edward died on 9 May 1962 in Balmain Hospital. cancer of colon 1962/11187. Edward was buried on 11 May 1962 in Northern Suburbs Crematorium.

"Residence.1.: 1899, Balmain, Sydney, N.S.W., Australia. (Source: CD ROM - of Births-Deaths-Marriages - GKFS.)

Residence.2.: 1914, 27 St. Georges Crescent, Drummoyne, N.S.W. (Source: Death Reg of David Hall No 9900/1914..)"

"Residence.3.: 1916, Rickard Road, Bankstown, living with mother, Mrs Sophia Hall, [War records of Dave & Fred, all living at this address]..2464

Residence.4.: 1924, Drummoyne, Sydney, NSW.

Residence.5.: Bet. 1945 - 1962, 43 Tranmere Street, Drummoyne, N.S.W.2465,2466

Residence.6.: 1962, Balmain District Hospital, Balmain, NSW"

Address Drummoyne at mother's death 1932

Usual residence, at death, 43 Tranmere St., Drummoyne

"Miltons mother-in-law, Annie Selina Getty, was living or staying at their residence of 43 Tranmere

Street, Drummoyne, when she died of Chronic Myocarditis, on the 12th July 1945, he was the

Informant on her death certificate also.^6,11,24,35"

Selina Wilhelmina LARNACH,³⁵ daughter of John Edmond LARNACH ( - ) and Anne Selina Elizabeth GETTY ( -1945), was born in 1898 in Rockley, nr. Bathurst, NSW.⁶ She was a Cashier.⁶ She died on 6 Jun 1982 in Rodd Point, New South Wales.⁶

Known as "aunty Billie". The Ryerson index has a Selina Hall d.6.6.1982 age 83, late of Rodd Pt.

Residence.1.: Bet. 1898 - 1924, Bathurst, New South Wales, Australia.2473,2474 Residence.2.: 1962, 43 Tranmere Street, Drummoyne, N.S.W.2475 Residence.3.: 1982, Rodd Point, NSW^6,50

Selina Wilhelmina LARNACH and Edward Milton HALL had the following children:

59.

Edith Thora HELLMERS,⁶ daughter of Frederick Christian HELLMERS and Lucy LINLEY, was born in 1900 in Liverpool NSW.⁴ She was a Schoolteacher. She married Harold George RAGGATT on 19 Jan 1927 in St. Philip, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.^{4 3} She died on 13 Feb 1974 in Hughes, A.C.T., Australia.^{4 6}

" LADY EDITH THORA HELLMERS" according to source⁶

Harold George RAGGATT,⁴ son of Percy Claude RAGGATT ( -bef1941) and Martha Annie BARKER ( - ), was born on 25 Jan 1900 in North Sydney, NSW.³ He died on 2 Nov 1968 in Canberra, ACT, Australia.^{4 3 3} Heart attack.

A full biography of Harold Raggatt can be found in Source "Descendants of Christin Von Hellmers."

Sir Harold Raggatt

"Military service.1.: January-1918 (Enlisted in the AIF, He went overseas in March 1918 with his unit, the 13 Field

Company Engineers, but by the time his training was finished and he had reached France the war had ended.) He

was employed as a Master of Science in 1932, and of Doctor of Science in 1939 in 1932. He lived in Canberra,

Australian Capital Territory, Australia in 1939 (In 193915 Raggatt applied for the position of Assistant

Commonwealth Geological Adviser and was selected by Woolnough for this post; this involved moving to

Canberra.). Occupation.1.: 1940 in Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia (194015 and Raggatt became

Commonwealth Geological Adviser. ) Occupation.2.: Bet. 1941-1942 (Dr H G Raggatt, Director & Head of the

Bureau of Mineral Resources - Canberra.15) He arrived in San Diego, California, United States in May-1945 (Age:

4582). Occupation.3.: 1946 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Raggatt moved the headquarters of the Bureau and

the Geophysical Section to Melboume) Occupation.4.: 1951 in Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia (In

1951 Raggatt accepted the post of Secretary of the Department of National Development, though he felt some

reluctance at leaving the Bureau of Mineral Resources and direct contact with and participation in geology.)

Awards: Bet. 1954-1963 (C.B.E in 1954 and a Knithood in 1963) Occupation.5.: Bet. 1957-1965 (Harold was

Deputy Chairman of the Australian Atomic Energy Commission from 1957 to 1965. ) His sex was Male82-83, 85. He

was known by the title of Sir Harold Raggatt. Title (Facts Pg): (Dr and Knighted - Sir Harold Raggat.15)"

"He was appointed C.B.E. in 1954 and knighted in 1963.

Sir Harold George Raggatt (1900-1968), geologist, was born on 25 January 1900 in North Sydney, second of five

children of Percy Claude Raggatt, a native-born grocer, and his wife Martha Annie, née Barker, who came from

Wales.

Harold attended Gordon Public School where, through its headmaster 'Cocky' Fry, he gained a love of the English

language. He proceeded to Sydney Technical High School and the University of Sydney (B.Sc., 1922; M.Sc., 1932;

D.Sc., 1939). After completing the first year of his undergraduate degree, he enlisted in the Australian Imperial

Force on 4 March 1918 and embarked for England seventeen days later. In February 1919 he joined the 13th Field

Company, Engineers, which undertook reconstruction work in the Meuse Valley, France. He also helped to build

the monument to the 4th Division at Bellenglise, near St Quentin.

Demobilized from the A.I.F. in Sydney on 28 September 1919, Raggatt resumed his university course. He initially

found it difficult to study, but came under the influence of Sir Edgeworth David and decided to pursue a career in

geology. In mid-1922 he joined the team which conducted the Geological Survey of New South Wales; he became

a keen publicist and in 1924-25 made radio broadcasts, beginning with a popular account of the geology of Sydney.

At St Philip's Anglican Church, Sydney, on 19 January 1927 he married Edith Thora Hellmers, a schoolteacher who

had been a fellow undergraduate.

Sir Harold died of myocardial infarction on 2 November 1968 in his home at Hughes, Canberra, and was cremated

with Presbyterian forms; his wife and their daughter survived him. The Raggatt Mountains in Enderby Land,

Antarctica, are named after him"³

Harold George RAGGATT and Edith Thora HELLMERS had the following children:

60.

Frederick Linley HELLMERS, son of Frederick Christian HELLMERS and Lucy LINLEY, was born in 1904 in Liverpool NSW.⁴ He married Lillian Grace GOOLEY in 1931 in Liverpool NSW.⁴ He died on 6 Nov 1974 in Gordon Road, Moorebank, New South Wales.^{4 6 3}

THE FULL FAMILY TREE CAN BE FOUND AT SOURCE 335:³⁰

Lillian Grace GOOLEY,⁴ daughter of William Joseph GOOLEY ( - ) and Edith Lilian UNKNOWN ( - ), died on 9 Dec 1970 in Moorebank.⁵¹ She was buried on 11 Dec 1970 in Moorebank.⁵¹ She and Frederick Linley HELLMERS had the following children:

61.

Edgar Christian HELLMERS,⁴ son of Frederick Christian HELLMERS and Lucy LINLEY, was born on 10 Nov 1906 in Canley Heights, Canly Vale, N.S.W., Australia.^{4 3} He was a 1976, Farmer, Vinyards at Canley Vale.⁴ He married Silva Renfree ADAM in 1947 in Waitara, N.S.W., Australia.^{4 3} He died on 7 Dec 1976 in 3 Clanalpine Street, Mosman, N.S.W., Australia.⁴ carcinomatosis 4 yrs., cancer of rectum 4 yrs. Edgar was buried on 9 Dec 1976 in Northern Suburbs Crematorium.

FULL FAMILY TREE DETAILS AT SOURCE 344.

Military service: Bet. 01 July 1940 - 08 December 1945, Enlisted into the Australian Army, service no NX55653, enlisted Paddington, 17-1940, taken prisoner of war, discharge Private 2/20 Battalion 8/12/1945, dob 10-11-1906 at Canley Vale, next of

kin - Lucy Hellmers

Residence.1.: 1906, Canley Vale.2718,2719 Residence.2.: Formerly of Gunnedah.2720 Residence.3.: 1976, 3 Clanalpine Street, Mosman, N.S.W.⁶,

Silva Renfree ADAM⁴ died on 31 Jul 2010 in Townsville, Qld.³ She and Edgar Christian HELLMERS had the following children:

63.

Rita HELLMERS, daughter of Frederick Christian HELLMERS and Lucy LINLEY, was born aft 1910.⁶

68.

Albert John HELLMERS, son of Joseph Albert HELLMERS and Florence Annie COOKE, was born in Oct 1900 in Liverpool NSW.⁵ .32688../..1900. Albert married Alice Beatrice SMITH in 1924 in Pitt Street Congregational Church.⁴ He died on 27 Aug 1933 in Liverpool NSW.^{4 6} Cause of Death: Suicide. Albert was buried in Aug 1933 in Anglian Section, Rookwood Cemetery, N.S.W.^{4 9 6} Gravestone Inscrip: 1933, Photo on headstone. Inscription above Photo - "Dear Daddy". Inscription on central urn - "From Mum & Dad".

Alice Beatrice SMITH, daughter of William J SMITH ( - ) and Lily A ( - ), was born in 1904 in Leichhardt.⁴ She married Roy HAMILTON in 1941 in Liverpool. She died on 27 Sep 1986 in Georges Hall.^{4 6}

Residence: 1924, Croydon, N.S.⁶

Alice Beatrice SMITH and Albert John HELLMERS had the following children:

98.

Arthur Hill Berthold HALL,⁴⁰ son of Daniel Berthold HALL and Winifred Temperance CRANCH, was born on 19 Nov 1910 in Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa.^{53 40} He was baptised on 18 Dec 1910 in St. Mary the Less, Jeppestown, Pretoria, South Africa.⁴⁰ He married Alma Edith KOHLKE on 2 Feb 1935 in St. Aidan Anglican Church, Yeoville, Johannesburg.⁴⁰ He died in South Africa.⁴⁰

Arthur Hall was born to Bert Hall and Winifred Cranch in Johannesburg in 1910. He married Alma Kohlke in 1935 in Yeovil, Johannesburg.

He was a builder.

C of E

Alma Edith KOHLKE⁴⁰ was born on 2 Sep 1907 in South Africa.⁴⁰

99.

Harold Poole HALL,⁴⁰ son of Daniel Berthold HALL and Winifred Temperance CRANCH, was born on 29 Jun 1912 in Johannesburg, South Africa. He was baptised on 18 Aug 1912 in Transvaal, South Africa.⁴⁰ He was a Plumber. He was C of E. He married Nell BRODERICK on 10 Dec 1938.⁵⁴ He died on 6 May 1994 in Durban, South Africa.⁴⁰ He married Hellena Annie LEECH.

Harold Hall was born in 1912 in Johannesburg to Bert Hall and Winifred Cranch. He married Nell Broderick in 1938. After her death he married Hellena Leech. Harold died in 1994 in Durban, South Africa.

He was living in Durban in 1971. Addresses:13 Wood Rd. Montclair, Durban, Sth. Africa 4001. During WW2 Harold was in the Royal Navy.

Harold was very active in the world of vintage motorcycles and vintage car restoration.

Editorial from Johannesburg Newspaper dated February 1986... "Grand old man of DJ run set for big day. At a sprightly 73, Harold Hall is not the oldest entrant in this years Castrol DJ Commemorative run which starts in Johannesburg tomorrow - but he does have another major claim to fame. He is the only rider in the 125 entries who took part in the original Durban to Johannesburg road races which the DJ now commemorates. Longer Route...He recalls at his first entry in 1934. He also competed in 1935 and 1955." "Even by todays standards a time of 6 hours and 5 minutes deserves some credit, especially when you consider the sand roads, the irrigations and the curves, It was a longer route in those days, through the Drakensburg Mountains, where the road followed the contours of the country. This year Harold will be riding a Cevis 350cc which has competed five DJs and which has the distinction of having been loaned to the 1932 DJ winner Barton Kirsey."

He visited his Tasmanian relations in 1986.^{40,41,54,55,56}

Source "Descendants of Daniel Berthold Hall" has Harlod Hall's wife as Hellena Annie Leech, born on 3rd. March 1913.⁴⁰

Hellena Annie LEECH was born on 3 Mar 1913 in South Africa.

100.

Roy Jansen HALL,⁴⁰ son of Daniel Berthold HALL and Winifred Temperance CRANCH, was born in 1914 in Johannesburg.^{53 6} He was baptised on 31 May 1914 in Transvaal.⁴⁰ He died in South Africa. He married Salome MACINNES.

Roy was born in Johannesburg in 1914 to Bert Hall and Winifred Cranch. He married Salome McInnes.

Salome MACINNES was born on 26 Feb 1909 in South Africa.²⁴

103.

Jean Norma HALL, daughter of Frederick Poole HALL and Isabella Jean MCLEAN, was born on 13 Feb 1925 in 88 Lyons Rd., Drummoyne, Sydney.⁴² born at "Nurse Rice's Private Hospital".Birth certificate A 271477 extract 27/12/41. Jean was a Bank Officer ,Hotelier. She was C of E. She married Donald Macdonald KNIGHT on 22 Jun 1946 in Christ Church, Gladesville, Sydney. David J.Knox, Marriage Certificate C694305, Witnesses - Ian E Barton, Norman E Smith. Jean died on 17 May 1996 in Mary's Grange Nursing Home, Taroona, Hobart, Tasmania. Alzheimer's Disease. Jean was buried in Cremated Hobart Crematorium. Ashes with son, Rhett Knight.

Jean attended Gladesville Primary School, and then Riverview High School to Intermediate Level. She then worked at the Rural Bank in Martin Place, Sydney city as a typist/office assistant in the Chief Accountant's office, 8th Floor from 5th Jan 1942 until 5th April 1946, shortly before her marriage. Jean and her sister Shirley were Legatees after their father Fred's death. She and Don became attached during 1943 and many hundreds of letters were passed between them during the war and whilst Don was in the merchant Service. After her marriage to Don, and Rhett's birth, they lived at Enfield and then Centennial Park whilst Don was still at sea. She worked as a barmaid in various hotels whilst living at Centennial Park before Don came ashore and they managed the Annandale Hotel for a period.

During their hotel management, Jean often would take responsibility for the kitchen and accommodation roles, complementing Don's public relations side.

She was a gifted interior decorator and an avid antique collector. In Tasmania she was contracted to do the decorating for several other Tasmanian hotels. Her eulogy, written and delivered by Nancy Schaffner tells of the cruel disease which eventually took her life⁵⁷.

Donald Macdonald KNIGHT, son of Edward Arthur KNIGHT (1895-1972) and Margaret Harken MACDONALD (1899-1927), was born on 30 May 1925 in Sydney. He was a Ship's Officer, Hotelier. He was Methodist. He died on 21 Oct 1995 in Launceston. Heart failure,whilst suffering terminal liver cancer. Donald was buried on 21 Oct 1995 in Cremated Launceston Crematorium. Ashes with son, Rhett Knight.

Don was born into a working-class family - father a ship's engineer, mother the daughter of a ship's engineer. Don's mother died when he was aged 2, brother Billy 9. Perhaps because their father, Ted, worked full-time or could not cope with 2 young boys, Don and Bill were brought up by their maternal grandmother Annie Macdonald, an Irishwoman from Londonderry. Annie was a nurse by profession. According to Don's brother Bill "by all reports was a broad speaking Scottish lady who did not tolerate frivolity....but who did the best she could for them both". Annie's husband Walter had died in 1915. Although she was stern, Don spoke about her fondly. In later life whenever Don visited Sydney he always visited the family grave at Rookwood. Annie came to care for them at Foucart St., Drummoyne. They moved (by horse and cart!) to Thompson St., Drummoyne. Then to Broughton St., Drummoyne where they had a garden in the Depression. Next to Edwin St., Drummoyne. Don went into the Navy at 17. Bill, who had lived at other family houses, including Rowntree St., got married from Edwin St.

Don went to Drummoyne Primary School and he spent 3 years at Drummoyne Intermediate High School until November 1939. He attended the Methodist Church in Drummoyne, and was in the "Boys Brigade" during Primary School. He spent 3 years at High School, and after finishing school he obtained a job as a clerk with WD&HO Wills and Co. in the city. Don may have been a a surf lifesaver, probably at Narrabeen, explaining his lifelong love of bodysurfing. He had a friend at Narrabeen, Larry McNab, whose mother was reputed to be a relative or family friend of his mother. Don visited Mrs. McNab several times before her death, last time at Collaroy.

Before the War Don sang in a vocal group called the "Arabian Knights". He was 17 years of age when in it, according to Ian Barton, another member. It was 3 part harmony consisting of members Ian Barton - bass, Don Knight - melody, and Herb Smith - tenor. It was a National competition and they won it. The show was broadcast by Macquarie network 2GB. Assessment was done by vote, and the groups were auditioned first. The show pianist was Marie Ormston, the "Melody Girl". She was engaged to Frank Brown (contempt of Parliament). The "Arabian Nights" were invited to sing at their wedding, but war intervened. Don was also on "Amateur Hour" in an instrumental group, the "RonDonIans": Ron Gowans - sax, clarinet, became professional and later played with Tommy Tycho, Ian Barton- Spanish guitar, Don - piano accordion, George Watson - drums.

Because he was only 17 he had to get his father's authorisation to enlist in the Navy. This was obtained only grudgingly, according to his cousin, Jack Knight. He kept waiting outside the pub door for his father Ted to sign the document which he eventually did. Don was mobilised for War service 0n 7.9.42. His naval experience was mainly on Corvettes, and he was a member of the Corvette Association in later life, attending reunions from 1980 until 1992, and taking senior roles in the Association.

"Corvettes are one of the smallest warships in the Australian navy and were built in local shipyards in Australia. They served in World War II escorting merchant ships around the Australian coast, swept for mines and rescued survivors from bombed ships."

Training during WW2 seems to have been: "Cerberus" to Jan 1943."Rushcutter" to April 1943. HMAS Rushcutter was an anti-submarine school, and a radar and gunnery school at Edgecliffe, Sydney.

Don served on the "Cairns", corvette, then the"Geraldton" minesweeper during 1943 during the invasion of Sicily in the Mediterranean, in Atlantic convoys, and in the Persian Gulf convoys from Aden to Bombay. He was on HMS "Canopus", a naval shore establishment in Alexandria in 1943. From April 1944 until February 1946 he served on the "Yandra, Radar ship until he finished his navy service. Yandra remained in eastern Australian waters conducting routine patrol, anti-submarine and escort duties which extended as far north as New Guinea. "Don had qualified in Radar and Gunnery at "Rushcutter". His photos and memorabilia show that he had visited many places during WW2, including Bombay, Calcutta, Karachi,Kandy, Suez, Port Said, Alexandria, Gibraltar, Haifa, Nazareth, Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Aden, Cairns, Milne Bay, Fremantle and Eden.

During the War he met his future wife Jean when he was on leave. They exchanged hundreds of letters during the War and whilst he was in the merchant Service.

He was demobilised on 4.3.1946, and his WW2 discharge address was 40 Edwin St., Drummoyne. His discharge was a month before his grandmother Annie Macdonald died.

After demobilisation Don worked in the Probate Registry From January 1940 to November 1940 and went back to work for WD&HO Wills for about a year. During a period of leave he went to sea for a trip with close friend Norm Smith's wife, Molly Smith's father, Captain Haydn. Don then served under the captain on "60-miler" cargo ships, about 60 miles up and down the coast from Sydney for a couple of years. Haydn persuaded Don that he needed more qualifications which meant going on longer voyages. Don then joined Miller's shipping company. Ships he sailed in included the "William Macarthur" and the "Birchgrove Park". And the Union Steamship Company's "Kamona", and the Australasian United Steam Navigation Company's "Mildura". Don wrote to Jean whenever he was ashore and the letters indicate many sailings to Strahan, Hobart, Brisbane and other Australian ports. He was examined for and passed his 2nd Mate's certificate of Competency. Later he sat and passed exam for 1st. Mate's certificate of Competency. He didn't take up a captaincy, although he only had about 12 months before he could qualify for it. Life at sea was proving difficult for a young married couple with a young child. Don was a Masonic Lodge member first at Birkenhead in Sydney,joining on 22/8/1946, continuing membership in Tasmania from 1977 at the Army and navy Lodge as a Master Mason, retiring in June 1990.

By June 1947just before son Rhett's birth, the family was was living at 25 Dean St., Enfield, and were still there in October 1948.(232), and in July 1950. By 1952 the address was Cook rd. Centennial Park.

Don left the sea in 1953. His last port of call was Newcastle on 15th April 1953.Whilst on leave from the Merchant Navy, at a weekend trip to Mt. Victoria Hotel, Don was spotted by the owner, Doyle Mallett, organising a dance for all the guests. Mallett persuaded Don to leave the sea to work for him, learning the hotel trade at his hotels in Katoomba, Mt. Victoria and Petersham.After leaving the sea, Don went into the hotel trade, and eventually managed the Annandale Hotel for a period whilst the owners were overseas, living on the premises. After that came a stint managing "Gearins' Hotel" at Katoomba in the Blue Mountains (Including a short stint at the Mount Victoria Hotel). Then, spotted by Reg Ansett, Ansett Hotels contracted Don to develop and manage the Club Hotel at Burnie in Tasmania. In April 1955. He certainly did that, lifting the beer sales from nowhere to be the second largest of any hotel in the state. One of the attractions for drinkers in the Public Bar was the television set. License Number One in Tasmania. The family moved to Launceston about 1958. A photo of the Club hotel was notated on the rear "our hotel from 1954-1958" by Don Knight. He organised many dinners for the local ex-P.O.W.'s, serving extra-hot curries for them in a private room. Part of the reason for moving from Burnie was the urging from Jean who was concerned that Don's vocabulary was becoming limited to "Ow yer goin' mate, orright?" and thought that a more elevated tone would be more appropriate for them both. After several years, in July 1960 the Centennial Hotel in Launceston was purchased freehold, and soon the building was re-developed. Whilst owning this Hotel, Don took over the lease of the Hotel St. George Launceston in August 1961 from Boag's Brewery, purchased it in December 1978 and sold it in 1980. He had a great interest in, and appetite for, wine. His interest led to him being appointed the first Vineyards Association of Tasmania Executive Officer, a part-time honorary position, from 1984 to 1990.

Like many others from slightly deprived backgrounds, Don was proud of his wartime experiences and his time at sea. It opened up for him new worlds and interaction with many different people from all stratas of society. He celebrated these experiences for the rest of his life; by referring to them (whilst he was on his boats "Lady Jean", then "Shenandoah"(1973) he was the Captain and everything was referred to in naval terms), by socializing with like-minded people, and by joining and working for interest groups related to them (the Naval Association and Legacy - Launceston president from1973). He was a member of the Merchant Service Guild of Australia and the Naval and Military Club.

Likewise, he was proud of his Scottish ancestry - through his mother's side he was a Macdonald and given that as his second name. She was born in Scotland and although he knew little of her forbears other than the story that his great grandfather was a Master mariner, he loved the idea of his Scottish descent. He celebrated it in many ways, most obviously by introducing the idea of a "Burns night" (25th January) to the Beefsteak and burgundy Club. Every year a Burns night would be held at his hotel, the St. George. A Haggis, made by Don, using ingredients (lung, heart and other nasty bits) from the friendly German butcher Wolfgang next door, was piped into the gathering by a bagpiper from the local Caledonian band. Burns' "Ode to a haggis" would be recited by a local Scot and the ceremonies would be overseen by the local Chieftain, Bill Thompson, another Scot, and close friend. Much revelry ensued, drinking and singing - lots of good fellowship and also good for business.

Don's gifts were his social skills - he genuinely loved and enjoyed other people. He could relate and adapt to people from all backgrounds, was naturally friendly and outgoing. He enjoyed individual interaction and he loved a party.

He loved old musicals and in his retirement would watch many of them again on video .He had a great knowledge of songs and where they came from and who sang them as well.

Beauty Point. In the 1960's Don and jean bought a shack on the waterfront at Beauty Point, 40 minutes drive from Launceston. They renovated this over a number of years to a pleasant house. From here, Don was able to develop his passion for boats and the sea through a motor cruiser moored close by. The weekend routine was often to come to Beauty Point on a Sunday (or on a Saturday, returning to the Hotel for the Saturday night) and cruise and fish in the Tamar, eating onboard or barbecuing ashore somewhere. This was often done with other families and friends aboard or on their own boats: most notably the Hendersons' in the early days, and other boat owners (Rex Stephens, John Roark and families) later on. The boats had the advantage of being very fast, powered by large petrol motors, of being able to have a full day on the water and get back home quickly to have a social gathering at home afterwards. Because they were motor boats they were looked down on by some in the yachting fraternity as 'not real boating'. Don was aware of this snobbery and was always careful not to offend yachties.

In 1971 jean and Don had an overseas trip for 4 months, visiting Hawaii, Mexico, Bahamas, New York, Portugal, Spain,Paris, London, Scotland, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Greece and South Africa. They had previously travelled to Japan in the 1964.

After selling the St. George hotel in 1980 Don worked in sales fro his good friend John Roark until an unfortunate hospitalisation in Hobart in 1981. He was left quite unwell after that for a period of time and won a settlement from the hospital because of it's negligence.

Don and Jean never had a house of their own (apart from their shack) until they purchased 30 High Street, Launceston in the 1970's. They lived either in rooms at their hotels (Club Hotel, Centennial Hotel, St. George Hotel) or rented local flats (Dean St. Ashfield, Sydney, Cook Rd. Centennial Park Sydney, Frederick St. Launceston and Elphin Rd. Launceston). Frederick St. was a long-term stay and so was decorated appropriately according to Jean's taste. So the purchase of High St. was a milestone for them, particularly as it was in a very upmarket part of Launceston and was an imposing residence. They had come a long way from Gladesville and Drummoyne in Sydney.They were gradually renovating and decorating High St. and they had one upstairs bedroom full of antiques and bric-a-brac ready to be used. When Jean first was affected by Alzheimer's disease in about 1989 the renovations stopped, and when she was put into private care at a local nursing home, gradually Don sold off many antiques in order to pay for her care.

Don was a wonderful carer, religiously visiting Jean, usually twice daily, and became on best of terms with the nursing staff and many residents.

He faced his own mortality with great equanimity being diagnosed with terminal liver cancer 3 months before his death in 1995. He had begun some research into his family history at that time and would have loved to see how it developed^{23,41,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68}.

Donald Macdonald KNIGHT and Jean Norma HALL had the following children:

104.

S J H, daughter of Frederick Poole HALL and Isabella Jean MCLEAN, was born in 1928. She married John Thomas CORDWELL in 1952.

John Thomas CORDWELL, son of Thomas Harold CORDWELL (1887- ) and Gertrude GRALTON (1893- ), was born on 3 Jan 1930 in 46 Hermitage Rd., Ryde. John was born in 1930 in Ryde. He was an electrician by trade. John was an Electrician. garage proprietor. He died on 4 Dec 2003. He and S J H had the following children:

105.

Irving Hall CLELAND,³⁵ son of George Alexander Neil CLELAND and Mary Irene HALL, was born on 4 Jul 1915 in 44 Ashburn Place, Gladesville, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia.^{48 35} 29136. Irving was an Electric & Oxywelder.³⁵ He married Thora SHIPTON in 1939 in Drummoyne.³⁵ 19250. Irving died on 2 Nov 1965 in Mareeba, Cairns, Nth Queensland.^{48 35} suicide.

Residence 1: Bet. 1915 - 1930, "Oakland", 44 Ashburn Place, Gladesville, Sydney, N.S.W. Australia

Residence 2: 1965, Mareeba, Queensland³⁵.

Thora SHIPTON,³⁵ daughter of Jabez B Lloyd SHIPTON ( - ) and Emma F REYNOLDS ( - ), was born on 30 Mar 1915 in Hunters Hill, N.S.W.^{35 52} 27407. Thora died on 13 Sep 2004 in Cairns, Queensland, Australia.⁵² She and Irving Hall CLELAND had the following children:

106.

Olga Hellmers CLELAND, daughter of George Alexander Neil CLELAND and Mary Irene HALL, was born on 28 May 1918 in "Oakland", 44 Ashburn Place, Gladesville, Sydney, N.S.W, Australia.;.^{48 35} 25753. Olga married Ralph Clemesha HALL on 22 Sep 1939 in Nth Sydney, N.S.W., Australia.³⁵ She died on 21 Mar 2008 in Neringah Hospice, 4 Naringah Ave Sth, Wahroonga, NSW. She was buried on 31 Mar 2008 in Tamworth. placed in the grave of her husband Ralph Clemesha Hall.

Suffered from Alzheimer's disease last 2 years of life.

"Death Notice for Olga Hellmers Hall.

HALL, Olga Helmers.

Peacefully on March 21st 2008, at Naringah Hospital, Wahroonga.

Aged 89 years.

Dearly loved wife of the late Clem [Ralph] Hall and loving mother-in-law of Bev and Peter, Joanne

and Brian. Adored grandmother and great-grandmother of their families.

Fond sister of Beryl and Irving [deceased].

The relatives and friends of the late Olga Hall are respectfully invited to attend her Funeral.

A Memorial Service will be held in St. John's Uniting Church, Wahroonga, commencing at 10am, on

Saturday, 29th March, 2008, followed by a burial service in Alston Chapel, Lincoln Grove Memorial

Gardens, Gunnedah Road, Tamworth, commencing at 10am, on Monday 31st March 2008,.

Burke & Hamilton Funerals"

"Residence 1: 1918, "Oakland", 44 Ashburn Place, Gladesville, Sydney, N.S.W, Australia.

Residence 2: Bet. 1962 - 1964, Castlecrag

Residence 3: 1970, Yarra Glen,Victoria

Residence 4: Bet. 1974 - 1979, "Echo Hills", Kootingal, near Tamworth, N.S.W.

Residence 5: Bet. 1980 - 2002, "Maralba", Dungowan, nearTamworth, N.S.W.

Residence 6: Bet. 2002 - 2004, Villa 62, 22 Murna Road, Davistown, 2250. via Gosford."^24,35

Ralph Clemesha HALL,^{48 35} son of Edgar Percival HALL ( - ) and Iris Eileen HEAL ( - ), was born on 6 Feb 1914 in Paddington, Sydney, N.S.W., Australia.³⁵ .6898. Ralph died on 8 Apr 1992 in Tamworth Base Hospital, Tamworth, N.S.W., Australia. He was buried on 10 Apr 1992 in Lincoln Grove Memorial Cemetery, Tamworth, N.S.W.³⁵

"Known-as: Clem

Residence 1: Bet. 1962 - 1964, Castlecrag

Residence 2: 1970, Yarra Glen,Victoria

Residence 3: Bet. 1974 - 1979, "Echo Hills" , Kootingal, near Tamwoth, N.S.W. (Source: ...)

Residence 4: Bet. 1980 - 1992, "Maralba", Dungowan, near Tamworth, N.S.W."³⁵

Ralph Clemesha HALL and Olga Hellmers CLELAND had the following children:

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B G C, daughter of George Alexander Neil CLELAND and Mary Irene HALL, was born in 1929.^{48 35} She married Keith FRANKLYN-SMITH in 1948.³⁵

Keith FRANKLYN-SMITH, son of John Franklyn SMITH (1889-1952) and Dorothy Violet MCDONALD ( - ), was born on 24 Dec 1924 in 44 Merton Street, Albert Park, City of South Melbourne, County of Bourke, Victoria, Australia.³⁵ 5573. Keith was a 1948, Colour Retoucher,1954, Photogravure Operative, Womans Day, Pix & People Magazines, 1957, Photogravure Foreman.³⁵ He died on 3 Oct 2017 in Macksville, NSW.²⁴

Keith was born in 1924 in South Melbourne to John franklyn Smith an Dorothy McDonald. He married Beryl Cleland in 1948 in Gladesville and they had 2 children. Keith died in 2017 in Macksville, NSW.

"Hobbies 1: Model Ship Building : Marine Artist

Hobbies 2: Collections of Stamps, Coins, Shells, Gemstones, Marine Objects,Swords & Guns etc, and Bric a Brac"

"Residence.1.: Bet. 1924 - 1925, 253 Danks Street, Albert Park, City of South Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. (Source: Birth Reg of Keith Franklyn-Smith No 5573/1925.)

Residence.2.: 1927, 58 St Vincent Place, Albert Park, Melbourne, County of Bourke, Victoria. (Source: Birth Reg of Ross Franklyn-Smith No 7744/1927.)

Residence.3.: 1928, Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria.

Residence.4.: 1929, Vicars Avenue North Bondi, Sydney.

Residence.5.: Bet. 1933 - 1936, 101 Baltimore Street, Campsie, Sydney. (Source: Birth Reg of John No 23878/ 2492/1933.)

Residence.6.: 1948, 58 Rawson Street, Haberfield, Sydney. (Source: Marr Reg of Beryl & Keith Franklyn-Smith.)

Residence.7.: 1952, 680 Pittwater Road, Collaroy, Sydney. (Source: Death Reg of John Franklin Smith No 654/1952.)

Residence.8.: Bet. 1954 - 1990, 31 Lancaster Crescent, Collaroy 2097 (Source: G K Franklyn-Smith - FTW.)

Residence.9.: Bet. 1990 - 1995, 192 Coal Point Road, Coal Point, 2283, N.S.W. (Source: G K Franklyn-Smith - FTW.)

Residence.10.: Bet. 1995 - 2003, Lot 732 Partridges Road, Tamban, N.S.W. (Source: G K Franklyn-Smith - FTW.)"³⁵

Keith FRANKLYN-SMITH and B G C had the following children: